To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them

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This is an issue that it seems we can all agree on. "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them."

- George Mason

kaleege

日本人民全都是slave了。

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kaleege 发表于 2015-1-14 14:20
日本人民全都是slave了。

儒教国家slave几千年了。

ssgo2008

老万，你来谈谈你有啥枪？

kaleege

万得福 发表于 2015-1-14 14:27
儒教国家slave几千年了。

那为啥日本这么发达呢？

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kaleege 发表于 2015-1-14 14:32
那为啥日本这么发达呢？

岛国危机意识。人在有危机的时候会发挥他们最大的潜能。

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ssgo2008 发表于 2015-1-14 14:31
老万，你来谈谈你有啥枪？

我找找，在这：
恩，怎么贴图片啊？
ok 成了。

kaleege

万得福 发表于 2015-1-14 14:36
岛国危机意识。人在有危机的时候会发挥他们最大的潜能。

不是指经济，有钱没钱，
而是指文化上的发达，民主建设程度，文明程度，人权程度。
slave和民主、人权是完全背道而驰的。由有民主又有人权的人，还是slave吗？

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kaleege 发表于 2015-1-14 14:49
不是指经济，有钱没钱，
而是指文化上的发达，民主建设程度，文明程度，人权程度。
slave和民主、人权是 ...

slave
slāv/Submit
nounhistorical
1.
a person who is the legal property of another and is forced to obey them

你觉着日本人不是slave吗？呵呵。

kaleege

万得福 发表于 2015-1-14 14:52
slave
slāv/Submit
nounhistorical

haha, 日本人是如何符合这个定义的？法律规定日本人是别人的私有财产？

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kaleege 发表于 2015-1-14 14:53
haha, 日本人是如何符合这个定义的？法律规定日本人是别人的私有财产？

就知道你又要抠字眼了，呵呵。就那么个意思吧。

kaleege

万得福 发表于 2015-1-14 15:00
就知道你又要抠字眼了，呵呵。就那么个意思吧。

你都把字典定义搬出来了，反而说我抠字眼？

意思又是什么意思呢？日本人forced to obey? 你在美国不需要遵守法律遵守交规吗？美国人也是奴隶？

ssgo2008

kaleege 发表于 2015-1-14 15:31
你都把字典定义搬出来了，反而说我抠字眼？

意思又是什么意思呢？日本人forced to obey? 你在美国不需要 ...

日本现在整个是美国人奴才。

kaleege

ssgo2008 发表于 2015-1-14 15:42
日本现在整个是美国人奴才。

这么说是美国人把日本人的枪给禁了？

archers

kaleege 发表于 2015-1-14 15:57
这么说是美国人把日本人的枪给禁了？

日本有枪吗？

kaleege

archers 发表于 2015-1-15 16:37
日本有枪吗？

持枪率0.6%，全世界倒着数的国家。
不过按打虎以前说的，那也是持枪国家。

archers

kaleege 发表于 2015-1-15 16:58
持枪率0.6%，全世界倒着数的国家。
不过按打虎以前说的，那也是持枪国家。 ...

哦也

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“A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take away everything that you have.”
Thomas Jefferson

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That government is best which governs least. (Quotation)
Quotation: "That government is best which governs least."
Variations:

• "The best government is that which governs least."
• "That government is best which governs least, because its people discipline themselves."
  

Sources consulted:

• Founders Online
• Thomas Jefferson Retirement Papers
  

Other attributions:

• Henry David Thoreau
• An "Old Patriot"1
  

Earliest known appearance in print: 1837 (as variation #1)2
Earliest known appearance in print, attributed to Thomas Jefferson: 18533
Comments: Although the ideas expressed in this quotation may be in line with  Jefferson's opinions to some extent, the exact phrasing is almost certainly not  Jefferson's.  However, this quotation has been associated with the ideological descendants of Jefferson's Democratic-Republican party for a very long time (see above), and this is likely why it ultimately came to be attributed to him.  Merrill Peterson even referred to the quotation as a "Jeffersonian maxim" in The Jefferson Image in the American Mind (1960).4
- Anna Berkes, 2/5/08; updated 8/28/14
Further Sources

• Coates, Robert Eyler.  "That government is best..." The Jeffersonian Perspective.  Further analysis of this quotation and its relation to Jefferson's beliefs.
  

• 1. Yankee Doodle 2, no. 34 (1847): 134.
• 2. [John L. O'Sullivan], "Introduction," United States Magazine and Democratic Review 1, no. 1 (1837): 6. A discussion of this earlier source can be found in Paul F. Boller, Jr., Not So! Popular Myths About America from Columbus to Clinton (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1995), 49.
• 3. Edward Peterson, History of Rhode Island (New York: John S. Taylor, 1853), 41.
• 4. Merrill Peterson, The Jefferson Image in the American Mind (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 1960), 79.
  

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Government can have no more than two legitimate purposes, the suppression of injustice against individuals within the community, and the common defense against external invasion.

    – William Godwin